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Ellis,
The media here have just picked up on this.
http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=659847&in_review_text_id=630940
I've always found people 'disappearing' incredibly strange and disturbing, even more so when it involves 10 year old girls.
Your work continues to astound me
regards P.
You know what? listening to the news reports consisting of "they have been sighted here, there, getting into white vans, being grabbed and forced into cars, they are alive, they're not alive". It is just the same old rhetoric as we have heard previously. Almost as if it has been scripted. Ellis... I think those in command of the "hunt" for these girls know full well where they are. If they are being held for Satanic purposes then it is known about. If they have been sacrificed, then it is known about. They are part of the ring, and that's why they don't want any help from the likes of you!
There must be some way of finding out who these people are. Are they mind controlled puppets employed by the Hecate gang?
F
Ellis,
Didn't this happen before at an abduction somewhere ? Rings a big bell with me, but I can't put my finger on it. Can you ?
From the BBC.co.uk site:
Police are also checking claims by a Soham local, David Kitching, 51, that he saw a man and woman staring intently at children on the day the two girls disappeared.
He reported seeing a smartly dressed woman and a man in a green car acting suspiciously yards from where the 11-year-olds were last seen
Thanks,
J.
Your article.
Ellis. What are we going to do about all this? It has just got to stop. How on earth are we going to wake people up to this? how can we get pass the sheep dog patrolled media and get this right out into the open? Of course with information like this you are going to get ridiculed and have the delights of attempted character assassination. But somehow we have got to get beyond this and get this message out.
This is something which every decent person needs to know about. How about a book? I am sure David and others will help you get it published? Perhaps I am clutching at straws here, but something has got to give.
It all fits like a friggin glove doesn't it!
I can remember when I was a kid, about 9-10 years of age, a gang of us fought off two men who tried to abduct one of our playmates. We ended up setting the dogs on the bastards. To think that my friend may have ended up in the clutches of these people makes me want to heave.
Still on and on it goes, with hardly anybody daring to speak out about it and this just gives them open license to carry on. Everyone who slags the likes of you and David off are the agents of murderers, whether they understand it or not.
We live our lives under the spell of complete and utter nut cases, and yet according to the sheeple, we are the ones who are the nut cases. Just how upside down are their cognitions!
FS
The way the case is being handled absolutely stinks. In my opinion, it appears that those at the top and in charge 'know' yet they are behaving strangely and now putting people off from coming forward in case they waste any more valuable time. Also the threat of midnight tonight or else is bizarre.
L
I tell you Ellis. More and more people I know are becoming very suspicious that something insidious is going on, and these abductions are not just the local loonies.
FC
Ellis,
The UK has been gripped by this story, with its relentless media coverage. Last night there was a sense this dreadful incident was coming to an end.( see Daily Mirror )but it was another red herring.
I now sense a national mood that is increasingly tired. It is taking its toll on peoples minds whether they are aware or not.
P
Ellis,
I was aware of the Roy Whiting stabbing, but if there is a link it points to a high level co-ordination of events. I don't know, but remain open-minded though.
You are doing great work. I don't know if you have any intention of working with the police in Cambridgeshire, but you should seriously consider getting in touch. I would suggest the mood is desperate and suspect the police and the media would be open to what you are saying, especially the description on the website.
Newmarket is also closely linked with the royals mainly through horseracing and has been for hundreds of years.
P
We are really glad to see that you have published the article.
God bless you Ellis.
With love from F. R. an G.
Well it's traumatising the entire country, which is why the police are having to explain what they are doing, to assuage the anger and frustration that the abductors haven't been caught.
There is not a glimmer of the sex/colour/type of person who may be the abductor, just a blank which the police are admitting.
I was up very close to there last weekend for a barbecue and could sense the deep anger within the people there, not that they said much to indicate it, but you could feel it.
I am sure there was an abduction some time ago involving a sighting of a smartly dressed man and woman.
If there is an agenda this certainly consumes people's energy and I wonder what it is intended to take people's minds off.
Iraq ?
J.
Anyone who raises the subject of these little girls to me is being directed to your website. It is time people woke up, whether they like hearing the gory details or not. Yes it makes them squirm with discomfort but that's
just tough!
Dear Ellis,
As you say in your article about Holly and Jessica, children get hurt, and die, because we stand by and as adults do nothing. But in your words, and not the guy in charge of their disappearance, every little something helps.
I was somewhat stunned by your reference to 'feeling' that Glastonbury came into the equation somewhere. We just happened to be camping near Wells on the road to Glastonbury on some of the dates you specified. From Thursday till Tuesday. It was quite a hectic time in the town then. What with the Goddess Conference, the tail-end of the Big Green Gathering 'up the road' at the Cheddar Boot sale grounds and a massive Music/Dance Festival that week that ended with dancing in the High Street with bands and an African 'Zulu' Dance group doing a fantastic gig in the road.
We have friends there and we have noticed over the years that the people who 'put' the town on the map have been run out of it and now it is getting quite gentrified and full of yuppies wearing their wannabee threads and 'doing Glastonbury'.
I was interested in the tubby little anoraks in shaven heads and handlebar mustaches filming the little kids running about and I kept the children close to us whereas normally in the old days the town was well laid back and you felt safe there, even with the brew-crew lolling about on the war memorial ledge.
Keep well Ellis, and our love and support as ever for your website,
L.
You said that the 16th would be a day of revelations. On the 16th, they picked up the couple from Soham college, and now they are saying that these girls ARE dead, which we knew they would be because of the circumstances.
Have just been speaking to a friend and she said "I hope Ellis is going to make this known on his website".
I have forwarded a copy of your email to xxx so that she can see what you wrote for herself.
If you want to mention on your website that you wrote to me prior to all this happening then please feel free to do so.
God bless you Ellis for being so open to the God in us and waking us up to what is going on out there. This is certainly not the world I once thought I was living in.
F
Reporters are showing a real lack of intelligence... surprise not.
They are saying that strong evidence for the girls being dead have been found in the college, and this is the place where the police have been holding press briefings every day.
"duh.... we have bin sitting roite on top of the evidence and we and the busies ad no idea". God Ellis, talk about slap it right into their faces with a rotting kipper. These bastards are becoming more powerful and cocky
with the games they are playing.
FS
Ellis,
You are bound to have offended many, if not the very people concerned in all this. Then of course there are those people who just adore the elite and who think they can do no wrong. What you have written is bound to make many
people squirm and bring out a very deep emotional reaction.
Ellis,
RAF Lakenheath is next to the pathway where the bodies were found. UK TV are using the base as the main reference point in their reports.
This has also reminded me of the disappearance of a boy in the Summer of 1997, later found in Thetford Forest.This was for a while a very big story. It only has been forgotten because Diana died at the same time. Details of this case might now come to light again.
P.
Ellis,
My hypothesis of recent events in Soham.
Possible sequence of events leading to discovery of two bodies that refuse to reveal their identities after 3 days - despite police having the missing girls' fingerprints (taken from personal articles in the homes of the girls) and dental records.
1. Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr are ordered to get two young girls. They under the influence (by rule of fear) of a small clandestine group of people, possibly numbering 13. They have no option but to comply.
2. Huntley and Carr invite Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman (who they know well) back to their (Huntley's) house, where a man, unbeknown to them, is waiting for them in his green car. A story is told and the girls believe that all four of them are going somewhere together. It'll be fun, they are told. Once they arrive at the house, the girls get into the car, however Huntley and Carr remain outside. The driver centrally locks all doors and drives off.
3. The girls panic being alone with the strange man. The man waves his arms at them to fend of the panicking girls. "Driving like a maniac," a taxi driver sees this green car swerving dangerously back and forth across the road. He loses sight of the car as it turns and heads off towards Newmarket.
The car takes the girls to an isolated house in the country. The girls are locked in a basement. There, they will be kept until the "dates of requirement."
However, Huntley made an error. He was seen, by at least one witness, in the company of the girls shortly before they vanished. More important, he was the LAST person the girls were seen with.
4. Approximately 10 days after the girls disappearance, police "invite" Huntley and Carr to come to the police station and give voluntary statements. Next day, both are arrested on suspicion of abduction and murder. No bodies, as yet, had been found.
Huntley and Carr form a direct (or indirect) link back to the "group." It's imperative that they get rid of the girls. Plan B is put into operation.
5. By coincidence, the very next day, two bodies are "seen" lying in fenland (8 miles from where the girls lived) by a man walking his dog. No attempt had been made to bury the bodies, they were just left lying for anyone, who happened to walk past, so see. Odd, that they are only found after the two 'gopher's have been arrested?
After three days of forensic examinations, police are still unable to say, for certain, that the bodies are those of the two missing girls. Putting it another way - they "know" that these bodes are the two girls, but "scientifically" they are unable to match dental records, or compare fingerprints.
What's the problem? In all likelihood, the heads have been removed, along with their hands (the latter was considered a certainty by me right from the outset). No journalist has dared to ask.
Conclusion:
Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr will be charged with, and convicted of, the murders. DNA evidence will be found on both bodies that will link Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr to the murders. The group who carried out the killings will remain intact. Watch out for Ian Huntley's suicide while in jail pending trial.
P
We have to acknowledge this stuff before we can deal with it, some people I talk to think I am mad! I know you get your amount of criticism but that is the wayshowers journey! I suppose we are lucky we are not burnt at the stake again!
Much love and blessings for your valued work
S
Hello,
Your article concerning Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman is very interesting and the one concerning about
"The Keys of the Warlock" is even more lightning. My personal intuition about their disappearing was of a sacrificial ritual linked to pagan ceremonies. I reminded people buried alive in bonfire beacons during Celtic ceremonies. This must have been the case for Lugnasad (also called Lammas). The ideal sacrificial victims would have been young and angelic Nordic-looking virgins.
According to racialist theories aristocracy is tied to the Nordic/Aryan blood
(Gobineau http://www.eugenics-watch.com/roots/chap09.html ).
And take a look at this link, It should remind you something you told:
My intuition is that neither Ian Huntley nor Maxine Carr are responsible for the death of the girls. I can not explain this at this very time. But the police does not give clues or explanations about this strange case. They have not yet identified the bodies.
C.
Hi there,
thanks for your efforts re; Holly & Jessica.
I am just an interested bystander, but there are many curious aspects to this case. Also a piece of info that I'm not certain you are aware of that given you are into numerology, you might be interested in.
The bodies were found at a place called 'The Carr'. I found this coincidence quite striking (it being the name that Maxine Carr changed her name to!)
Other things I find interesting but are probably nothing:
1) The couple were arrested on suspicion of abduction and murder several hours prior to the bodies being discovered by 'passers-by' or 'farm-workers' depending on which report you read. They had been looking for two weeks and then the bodies turn up almost conveniently.
2) No-one has stated the condition of the bodies when they were found. In spite of much cheque-book jouralism going on; the people who found them have not been reported by the press at all. We still do not know how they were when they were found; the Sarah Payne case showed the willingness to report the condition of the corpse; she was naked, not sexually assaulted or violently atttacked and had been asphyxiated. With Holly and Jessica, there has been *nothing* given away about their condition. The police seemed to find it hard to identify them; (I wondered if they had been burnt: there have been two or three recent discoveries of burnt corpses in East Anglia in the past couple of months). They are still only saying that they are 'almost certain' it is them. It was also announced today that nothing conclusive has been found, that the cause of death has not been established.
This just seems all very mysterious and unusual to me.
3) Why did Huntley & Carr dump the bodies so close to a place they were connected with (Huntley's father's house)? If they went to all that trouble, why did they retain these 'items of interest' that the police claimed they found in the college grounds where Huntley lives and which prompted the police to question the pair? Surely they would have been well able to get rid of incriminating evidence. And let's be honest, in the light of the Roy Whiting conviction, it would not take much evidence for them to pin an actual charge on this couple!
Moreover, they had an opportunity to escape; if they are guilty, why did they sit there like sitting ducks waiting to be caught?
I'm not one for conspiracy theories (ok sometimes I am!) but the more I consider this interesting case, the more intrigued I am. There is just too much that is not being said, and which nobody seems to have noticed, probably because they are understandably very distressed.
Anyway, thanks for reading!
All the best
M
BTW it is always worth bearing in mind the Old Boy Network that exists in Britain, and the lengths that people in high places have been known to go to to cover one another's tracks.
Hi Ellis,
I read your updates on the Holly and Jessica tragedy with interest
I'd just like to make a couple of contributions that you may like to consider.
1. I have a hunch they'll release huntley and carr without charge within the next 24 hours. After 72 hours of questioning I'd have expected charges to have been made by now. I'm intrigued by the fact that members of the public found the bodies - not the police after confessions by H and C. It' s all a little too convenient. Days and days of no clues, no leads, red herrings. So they replace David Becks (Becks, nickname of Man Utd's (the red devils) most famous player, shirts worn by H & J), with a new guy and within 18 hours they've got a couple in for questioning. A further 24 hours and the girls bodies are found.
2. they were found near RAF Lakenheath. This military base was the site of one of the most famous UFO cases in the UK - it occured on August 14th, 1956! http://www.skiesare.demon.co.uk/bentwatx.htm. Maybe why pathologists couldn't conclude cause of death after five hours of forensics etc?
3. also there's a guy who's helped the uk police out quite a lot with psychic investigation - don't remember his name - but he leaves in cyprus now. He worked on the ripper enquiry and several other profile cases. He works through touch - similar to the guy in The Dead Zone. I seem to remmber him saying that the police do use psychics and alternatives but don't choose to publicize it.
keep up the good work
best wishes
A
Ellis,
It is all so strange and it almost smacks of a cover-up. I this morning had an email from someone who claims to have lived in that area for 25 years. They were saying that USAF personnel from Lakenheath (the bodies were found right by the perimeter fence...) had helped to search the school buildings. It occurred to me that there has not been a single report or mention of USAF personnel being questioned. If they were in the school, there is the possibility of
contamination with their DNA which would confuse the evidence. It is known around here that girls from local villages like to flirt with the lads from the bases. My inevitable train of thought led me to consider why the girls
sneaked out of the house without permission...they must have been intending to do something they knew they would not be allowed to do had they asked permission. Perhaps they went to meet some lads who had previously
befriended them?
Anyway, I have searched for reports that USAF were questioned on this matter, and have turned up nothing. Huntley & Carr have still not been charged in spite of extensive searches. No cause of death has been established and we still do not know the condition of the bodies when they were found. I did find reports saying that whoever used that area would have had to have extensive knowledge of it. (It is extremely remote and flat and characterless).
Finally, the person who emailed me also pointed out that there have been several cases where USAF service people have committed crimes, but that it has been difficult to try the perps in Britain, as the US military prefers
to try their own. They even snatched a body from a mortuary once for this purpose. More information about this is in a book called "Evil in East Anglia" (pp.116-124)
by David Thurlow, publ. Robert Hale; ISBN: 0709051824
I don't know if US personnel are involved in this; I am angry at the possibility that Huntley & Carr are guilty of nothing but being weird and in the wrong place at the wrong time and may well serve life imprisonment, and that the real culprit, the 'monster' that everyone is fearing is still alive and kicking.
Thank you for listening and I hope that my thoughts and information are helpful.
Best wishes
M
i read your stories which are imformative and good but no i think huntly is not something to do withthe occult i alsothink the phycarists got it right .he is mentaly ill .i read how his girlfreind had left him to marry his brother .i belive the crime was not sexual but one where a personbecomes opbbsessed with someone else it is a terrible rthing which may make people do extreme things .they are driven by a irrational i can actually see into the mindof this man while what he did is wrong he needs professional help ...what happened atsoham while traagic had nothing to do with freemassonery but a person whowent nuts something in him so traumatized him .prehaps his grilfiend running away with his brother that he becamwe obsessed with someone .wass he the caretakerat hollys school .
P
I see the caretaker in the Soham case has become so "mentally ill" that he has been sent to a secure mental hospital and may never come out! He seemed fine last week. Memories of Fred West who "hanged himself" while under police guard? Is there something they knew that cannot be allowed to reach an open court?
P
Hello Ellis.
Just a quick note to share my observations with you.
I don't think that the police as yet, have any real 'evidence' linking Huntley and Carr with this crime, for the following:
1: They were due to be released shortly. Suddenly it is reported that Huntley sat in the police station just 'dribbling'
and was sent to Rampton, at which point he was charged. Of course, there is the possibility that he 'flipped' when he realised the enormity of what was happening to him, but being in Rampton, he has no access to outside communication, plus of course, it could be easily argued by a decent barrister that he had no real
understanding of the charges being put to him. So, I doubt that he even has access to a lawyer.
Basically, the police have got their scapegoat, since mud sticks.
2: Maxine Carr. If she was involved with Huntley in the murder of the two girls, then surely this would make her an accessory to the crime?
But instead, she is charged with 'Attempting to pervert the course of justice'!! What kind of charge is that when dealing with this horrible situation, unless you don't have any evidence, you won't be allowed to hold her any longer, so you need to get something to keep her in custody!!
Then it was reported today at lunchtime, the judge had informed her that this charge carries a potential life sentence!!
Basically, Huntley and Carr are finished. If they come out, they'll be lynched, such is the myopic hysteria at the moment. They cannot be allowed to be found innocent of these charges whether they are guilty or not.
It's a done deal.
M
Dear Ellis
Early news reports were misleading, the bodies were not found between Lakenheath and Mildenhall.
But, if you draw a line between Soham and the place they were found (our tabloid maps vary slightly)
Holly Well Row is pretty much on that line. Obviously the whole area is of significance, and yes, Ms Carr has that possessed look about her. The sort of person one loves to hate but hate never gets you anywhere.
The RAF connection doesn't make me feel good either ( wider implications? I really don't know)
It's all very interesting but above all desperately sad.
Love
U
Hi Ellis
They are now aware that Holly and Jessica's remains were decomposed by the time they were discovered, a factor which made visual recognition impossible. - this is simply not possible given the time frame...bullshit!
Liked the update on questions
A
Dear Ellis:
I have come across your web site and empathise with your concerns regarding the dark spiritual forces at work in the world. I am in the process of developing a web site on the theme of Evil working to subvert natural and moral order in the Cosmos.....but that is for another time. The amount of effort you put into your work is commendable
Keep up the good fight
I
Hiya Ellis,
I hope this will be of help in your research,
Regarding the occult 'coincidences' surrounding the Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman murders, the word 'Soham' has very strong magical connections....here's some references for you...
Definition from The Working Glossary - 1892 by W. Q. Judge...
So'Ham, the reverse of Hamsa, symbolizing black magic. (sas, that; aham, I: I that very person, I myself -- expressive of bad egoism -- while Hamsa (aham, I; sas, that: I am That) is an affirmation of divine unity.)
Definition from Five Years of Theosophy - 1885 by H. P. Blavatsky
Soham, a mystic syllable representing involution; (lit. "that am I.")
Definition from Theosophical Glossary - 1892 by H. P. Blavatsky
Soham (Sanskrit.). A mystic syllable representing involution: lit., "THAT I AM".
This comes from Aleister Crowley http://www.hermetic.com/wisdom/lib-follis.html
These are the words which simulate with the number 51 = I am One, Sun, Golden, Light, Aour, Aether, Aumgn, Maut, Mut, Mu'at, Tum, Ammon, Neith, Hydra, Assiah, Gedulah, Gemini, Science, Redeemed, Udjat, Sigil, Three, Burn, Comet, Semen, Jesu, Calling, Sufi, Menes, Soham, Genadol, Iunge, Horn, Mahdavi, Oomdi, Placet, 2nd Death
I would say beyond a shadow of doubt, that Jessica and Holly were indeed sacrificed.
What sort of world have we created? I'm totally baffled how these people with such in-depth knowledge of the esoteric arts not know that it is every souls' responsibility to reach Enlightenment and that can only be reached via the light. Or is there another form of enlightenment which can be reached via the negative, which I have yet to discover?
I despair at their ignorance.
Love,
Ian Livingstone
I noticed that the Soham On-line site did have reference to the Magickal connections of the name Soham, but it has 'suddenly' been removed and that page cannot be found for love 'nor money!
Ian
Yes I saw this information on the Soham site, previously. It does appear to be inccessible at this time.
But an archive can be found at
Soham is a sacred site, an historic centre of pilgrimge, and a site of an ancient palace and cathedral.
Ellis
Dear Ellis
We have followed your site -amongst others- for quite some time now and have great admiration and respect for you.
You write your articles with the best of intentions, so why should you even have to think about offending anybody?The newspapers don't!!! Don't let them worry you!
They used the same phoney excuse when Diana died, saying that the speculations must stop to spare her children any more emotional grief. That to me is just emotional blackmail.
My sentiments are, there is nothing more upsetting than uncertainty and LIES.
U
Why couldn't they match dental records with either body?
P
