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HOLLY AND JESSICA
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This page was last updated on: 31 December, 2002
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A READER REPORTS FROM WANGFORD
Ellis,
Some thoughts and observations.
I first headed to the village of Brandon and the road linking it with Mildenhall, the A1065. It's a bank holiday weekend in England and a lot of people are visiting the site, traffic stretching back miles. However at the turn off to The Carr, Wangford there is a police block. Those with flowers place them at this point.
The looming presence of RAF Lakenheath on one side and Thetford Forest on the other, gives the area something of an enclosed feel. The church of St Denis ( at the end of the 1980's was run by American Baptists and perhaps still is), pokes out above the trees. St Denis, from a picture in the Times looks as though it's still well kept indicating a continued presence. I would say the site is not really isolated because of the air base near by. An 'A' road alongside also acts as a key link for the area. I can't emphasis enough how much the air base dominates.
In response to your request about the trees at 'The Carr' I think they are different to the largely pine that surround much of the wider area but I couldn't get close enough to really tell, but there wasn't as many as I thought. Wangford is also an ancient site dating back to the same period as the West Stow Anglo Saxon village nearby.Wangford should also not be confused with the other one in Suffolk on the east coast or its church, St Peter.
It is worth noting how many air bases there are around here;-Honington, Mildenhall, Feltwell, Lakenheath, Barnham. The local economy is very dependent on their presence.The Feltwell base is a particualy strange place. I can also confirm that on Monday 5th August American service personnel from USAF Mildenhall were helping in the search for the girls. This was reported in the Bury Free Press
http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/on the 9th and appears to be common knowledge in the area.
http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/on the 9th and appears to be common knowledge in the area.
I think Holly and Jessica have been left here to make it look as though this was a local crime, so focus can be entirely on this part of the world. The current situation with Carr and Huntley is all a bit too obvious. I think they have played a part though. Somewhere else has a greater clue. I think energy should be directed towards Glastonbury.
Whilst driving from Bury St Edmunds to Brandon I came across a mock tudor(ish) house next to the A11. 1000's of motorists will see this each day. However it 's more a kind of welcome lodge on the edge of a large estate, but an estate I was once told belongs to a Rothschild -don't know how reliable this is. Worth perhaps bearing in mind.
I have been struck throughout all this how much goodness the pictures of Holly and Jessica radiate. This should not be underestimated. They have touched people all around the world, which is rare. In the midst of the much reported hate and anger a real sense of unity and love has also emerged. See NATION STANDS SILENT FOR GIRLS.
http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=677208&in_review_text_id=649585
Kind regards
P
i can accept your propositon about satanic kilings but who in thi day and age belives in human sacrifice what purpose does murdering children serve?
PJ
Ellis,
Perhaps this is the crossed keys reference. Take a look at these links.
Could the person(s) we are looking for work or have connections with this Battalion?
P
Dear Ellis, I don't know whether the following information will be of interest to you, but I was able to use it, sadly, to work out when and where Holly and Jessica would be found. I shared this information with my wife and friends on Wednesday 14th August. I have been shocked, and frightened by how accurately events worked out. I am open to the possibility that I may have jumped upon a series of coincidences that have nothing to do with what really happened. I hadn't really paid too much attention to the abduction of Holly and Jessica, because I work long shifts as a truck driver. However, I read somewhere that Sarah Payne had disappeared on Princess Diana's birthday, July 1st, and was discovered on the 17th July. I was aware that the 4th August was the Queen Mother's birthday and she would have been 10/2. For whatever reason, the numbers 11,13,17,21 and 33 keep cropping up on a very, very regular basis. I told my wife and friends that the girls would be found on either Saturday 17th or Tuesday 21st. Interestingly, the 21st would have been Princess Margarets birthday. Very sadly, the girls were found on the 17th at 13:00 hours. I felt 100% sure that the two people the police had in custody would be charged with crimes concerning the girls by the 21st August, and they were. I got my map of the area and drew a straight line from Sandringham to the bottom of the page, then drew a line from Sandringham to Soham. Measuring the distance from Soham to the straight line, and transferring that distance from the other side of the line, and drawing a line from Sandringham, the line goes straight through Thetford Forest. Maybe all of this is just coincidence, but I find it disturbing that two ten year olds go missing on what would have been the QMs 10/2 birthday, and are discovered 13 days later at 13:00 hours. They were found close to a Royal residence, and a Royal Air Force base. Two people were charged with offences relating too the girls by the 21st August, Princess Margarets birthday. In this case the numbers 13, 17 and 21 are important, along with the number 10. Interesting also, that Edward V was murdered on the 17th August, along with his younger brother. They were aged 10 and 13. What do you think?
Anon
Hi Ellis
I found this story at http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/fullstory.asp?storyid=4
Elvedon is one of three such centre parcs in the uk one 12 miles north of Nottingham and the other a similar distance east of Glastonbury at Longleat . The central feature of each is a large glass dome housing a water park. Lunar symbolism?
Am I the only person who finds it strange that seven hours earlier they release someone without charge, but within half an hour of phoning the press he is taken back in! Nobody on your site has yet mentioned this so Ithought I would bring it to your attention.
"In previous articles on this site it has been proposed that abductions, murders and disappearances seem to coincide with the planning or construction of symbolically significant buildings."
http://ellisctaylor.homestead.com/SRMML.html
http://ellisctaylor.homestead.com/SRMML.html
S
Hi Ellis
Why are the press not asking about dental records- school children all have them as far as I know it is part of the NHS-free for children and it is the first line of ID --is it not-- if the bodies are not identified by a relative and why is that?
Cannot believe the time frame for the reasons given.
When I worked in a path lab they were still able to do a PM on a man who had been in the Manchester Ship Canal for 6 months-- mind you there were GREEN police men propped up outside the PM room and we had Airwick all
over the place.
Are we even sure the bodies are H&J -- after all Milly and Danielle Jones haven't been found yet?
J
Dear Sir,
you sit eis one of the most despicable sites I have ever encountered.
Your dubious, deceitful and dispicable exploitation of the murder of two innocent children is an outrage.
Instead of hard facts (which are noticably absent from all your articles on this subject) you use spurious references to "energy lines etc."
You exploitation of the suffering of those families is shameful.
I would write an article destroying the variety of dubious arguments but this would be a waste of time as you would not publish it
Yours
S.K.Sullivan
Be my guest - Ellis
Good on yer Ellis,
You and Joe Vialls are a tour de force.We cannot access the artcle on the webpage. In fact we cannot stay on your site either!
Normally we do have a lot of hassle getting on your site so we go via google.com or another sites link to you as ? refuses to put us thru on their browser bar......BUT today(midnite really) they are going beserk and crashing us out in seconds. So this tells us that you are on the button with this one.
Sometimes we take up to ten minutes to get thru to you....it all depends if theres some really controversial stuff on that is more so than usual and then we say - ah Ellis has something special for us today - uh huh!
Joe's site appears to be down as well.
That airforce base looms large in our memories from many years past due to the murders that go/went on there. But I see that you have twigged the satanic link-up....good luck...take care...
JL
Joes article can be found at:
Ellis
I have had the unbelievable priviledge to be taught by Inti Cesar Malasquez, a native Indian Peruvian shaman who has also spent 10 years studying in India.
His web site is www.intishaman.com
On Monday 9th September, 6.45 am UK time I will be part of a very small group allowed inside Stonehenge to perform a ceremony.
You and I know the ley line goes up to Soham.
I am planning to put back a massive amount of love and light into this ley line, and extend it up to Soham. My light shines not only for Jessica and Holly, but their families and friends, for the people of Soham, for the
public who have been affected but also for those investigating the crimes, and for those responsible for the crimes who I feel I have to forgive and shine some light and love to as well. My state of mind is not to experience
negative anger but to do something positive for peace.
I have read all the letters, and was wondering if you may want to post this so that anyone around the world can join in for an hour at 6.45 UK time and work with me to put the light back into the ley lines. If you think you and
I could bring about some positivity using our web sites then let me know and be sure to tell people that I am taking time off work do do something that is within our control.
With love and peace
Simon
Count me in. Good on ya Simon. -Ellis
I emailed a few days ago regarding the murders of the poor girls and related anecdotal evidence from contacts who told me the reason for the difficulty with identification was due to the murderers trying to obliterate identities by incineration. A friend has just returned from holidaying in Norfolk and the talk is that the poor wee lassies were indeed subject to terrible burning: the people are talking that the caretaker or whoever tried to incinerate the bodies of the poor girls in the school boiler......whatever the difficulty in identification it is testament to a terrible Evil that is abroad on this dear Earth.
I.
From my predictions page:
4th August 2002?
Ok Here's a prediction that came with a visit to a very special place in Cornwall, England on 1st October 2001.
Not a good one, unfortunately.
The scene was of tall chimneys? engulfed in thick, black, oily smoke. I feel that it was something like an oil powered generating plant. I got a date...4th August, no year but I presume it will be next year, 2002.
(Published 2nd October 2001) -Ellis
Don't know if this has been mentioned on your site or elsewhere but what abut the film The Shining. Also on BBC News 24 on 2/9/02 there was an article concerning an unnamed 11 year old girl in the Home Counties who has had an electronic tag imbedded in her so she can be tracked. The article was accompanied by a photo of the two girls.
M.
I haven't seen The Shining. The reference to micro-chipping kids comes as no surprise to me. Many researchers have been warning that this is the agenda behind numerous high-profile abductions of children. -Ellis
Dear Ellis,
I have read all of Joe Vialls article and most of yours regarding the tragedy of the two murdered girls from Soham, not that far from where I hail from in Norwich, Norfolk. When I lived there a girl by the name of April Fabb from Metton I think, went missing never to be found.
Just a couple of comments.
1. I tend to agree with one of the letter writers who said that you produce a lot of hypothesis but little fact.
2. What can be drawn from all of this is that Satan in all his cunning has crafted such a web of mystery such that it cannot be unravelled, regardless of your earnest attempts.
3. The bodies were found and said to be partly skeletonised which suggests ritual sacrifice of some sort.
4. I recognised the Manchester Commonwealth Games symbols to be significant and videoed them and played them back in slo-mo. Very interesting as the figures change shape and colour and the centre one seems to be holding his foot with one hand at the beginning.
5. The Pyramid connection has an interesting soon to be conducted event. On Sept. 17 Zahi Hawass is going to send Pyramid Rover, a small robot with a camera, to explore a secret passageway which has remained a secret to this day. The article can be found at TIMESONLINE Aug 27 2002. www.timesonline.co.uk This article is to be found at www.cuttingedge.org a few days ago in the NEWS section. It may not help with Jessica and Holly but I know it is a major event.
I notice that Professor Kevin Warwick of Reading Uni is floating the idea of parents perhaps getting their daughters microchipped as a security measure. A year or so ago he did this himself to demonstrate the benefits such as the chip opening doors and switching on lights. I taped the radio programme as it seemed
to me to be very significant and likely to lead to the Mark of the Beast as spoken of in Revelation Ch. 13.
P.
Yes, I know what you mean -unfortunately I have received so much conflicting 'inside information' I feel it best to leave it alone and see what bubbles up. Nevertheless, alignments are alignments (fact) The days they went missing coincided with some extraordinary events (facts) on those particular alignments (fact). The girls were taken, dumped and a memorial service held, all on these alignmets (facts). Carr -who incidentally was out of town at the time - was remanded and terrified (emotionally sacrificed) on one of the said alignments. My psychic info seems to be panning out too -so far -the keys, the trap door -the incineration? -thanks, Ellis
I am not sure of the validity of this information, but according to one of the letters you received there was a girl suggesting that the children were burned in the school boiler, I have also heard this rumour and so called 'inside information' from a friend of mine with a relative working in the hospital that the girls' teeth and hands were removed to prevent identification, as in many murder cases. I am questioning the authenticity of this information as I don't understand how someone wouldn't have noticed the school boiler being lit during summertime when it obviously shouldn't have been as the children were on holiday.
I do not claim to have any psychic abilities or anything of the sort, in fact until a few days ago, when I accidentally stumbled upon your site, I did not once stop to think that psychic people could actually have real abilities! However, I do have a strong feeling that Maxine Carr is innocent. It's maybe my mind rejecting the idea that a woman could be involved in such awful behaviour. I have felt an overwhelming sense of pain for her. I have no idea why this is, but for some reason I just can't seem to believe that she is guilty.
S
Hi S, thanks for writing.
I've got Maxine's full details now, thanks anyway. I just haven't had time to look at them yet.
I agree, it does seem odd that the school incinerator was used because police were watching Huntley from the off -an incinerator should surely have attracted attention. The girls could not have been burnt in the open, for the same reason. So we are left with an incinerator at another location -another school, a factory, a crematorium for example. That of course depends upon them having been burnt. Indications are that more than the teeth and hands were removed. If this is in fact the case, they are looking in completely the wrong place. The occult anomalies associated with this case are very obvious and must surely not be ignored. I am suprised though that the parents decided to bury the children's bodies if they are incomplete.
It's an awful crime and it is essential that the right perpetrators are convicted
regards
ellis
Hopefully you can get the numerology for Maxine Carr and see if it is at all suspicious. I just read in the newspaper this morning that Ian Huntley is going to kill himself, people I've spoken to about it seem to be outraged that he could do such a thing before even being tried, but at the same token they want to rip him apart and carry banners saying 'bring back hanging' etc! I don't understand people sometimes... From what your numerology chart reveals (if that's the right word!), they both seem to be very suspicious, the fact that there are so many rumours about saying they were burned just spells out some sort of sacrifice, doesn't it? What are your views on Joe Vialls' 'theory'? I noticed you had a link on your page so I was just wondering what you thought of it. It has a lot of good suggestions, especially questioning why the U.S. servicemen were not questioned, the whole thing sounds a bit dodgy to me! But then what do I know?! Anyway, good luck with your numerology charts on Maxine and Ian, hopefully they can provide us with a little bit more info:)
I hope for everyone's sake the murderers are found guilty and sent away, whether it be Huntley and Carr or not.
I just had to tell you that our suspicions about the school incinerator were confirmed, in a report on Sky News today stated that the police were certain the girls hadn't been murdered in either school buildings (the college+primary school) or any locations within the school property!
S
Another peculiarity regarding whether Holly and Jessica were burnt is that police claim to have found the girls' clothing. If they were incinerated to hinder investigation, then wouldn't the murderer(s) have burnt the clothing too? - Ellis
Hello Ellis
I have been reading through your site for the past couple of weeks, since the disappearance of Holly and Jessica. Although I have found some content on the site a little "way out" to say the least, I am absolutely addicted to checking the site for more information on the strange events surrounding the murders of Holly and Jessica.
I find the murders wholly shocking and disturbing. I have been reading the theory that the bodies were burnt by incineration - however, I have heard that the bodies were doused in acid and their teeth removed, hence the delay in identification and the doubt that they may never know how the girls died - should there have been strangulation for example - the bruising and marks would only appear skin deep. I am not sure if acid is strong enough to partially skeletonise though?
Anon
I think you might be right. If the police have got their man, what does this point to? For me, considering the occult details pervading this case, there is extreme likelihood of mind manipulation. Whether this be by humans or an evil 'spiritual' force, now that is the big question. -Ellis
Milly Case Latest update today
Detectives have appealed for the driver of the dark saloon - thought to be a Honda Prelude or Vauxhall Vectra with a spoiler on the back - to come forward.
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Soham Case - the car that police have now seemingly forgotten about:
The taxi driver had picked up a fare from nearby Ely and saw the dark green car, believed to be a Peugeot 405 or a
Vauxhall Vectra, at the outskirts of Soham around 7pm on August 4.
Vauxhall Vectra, at the outskirts of Soham around 7pm on August 4.
P
Good morning Ellis.
Whilst browsing around the UK newspaper sites this morning, an intriguing article appeared in the Daily Mirror regarding Ian Huntleys detention in Rampton.
I thought you may be interested in this report, which I have abbreviated slightly below to show the contradictions.
From John Vialls article; 'Who really murdered Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman? Part 2'
"though some of the brighter reporters did note a change in Huntley himself, who has been completely at the mercy of the shrinks in Rampton Gulag since 20 August: Huntley looked gaunt and has lost weight since his arrest just over three weeks ago. His face is spotty and he has grey steaks in his hair. He is a shadow of the stocky man who appeared on TV a month ago to say he was one of the last people to see the girls alive. The ways in which Huntley has been psychologically tortured to bring about these dramatic changes in his appearance, will be explained in detail later in this report."
From Daily Mirror, 1st October 2002:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12243975&method=full&siteid=50143
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12243975&method=full&siteid=50143
"The source added: "He tucks in with great gusto, it is fair to say he likes his food and so far Rampton has not disappointed him. He does some exercise, but nowhere near enough to keep his weight down. He has put on about 6lbs since he arrived."
Surely some contradiction here?
My opinion is that the Mirror, by printing articles like this which obviously many people, including potential jurors are going to read, will encourage even more dislike of Huntley and thus ensuring that people are prejudiced against him.
This in turn, means that his chances of any 'fair' trial are effectively blown out of the water before it even starts.
Regards.
M (Scotland).
Thought you might be interested in reading an article from Milton Keynes Citizen dated 19th September. I am typing it up, as I can't find it on their flippin website. So, from reading this, we can deduce that without a fair trial, this guy has already been found guilty and his bed has already been made :-/ Still, what else did we expect eh?
F. UK
Woodhill cell is ready for man on Soham charges. By Sally Murrer
THE city's Woodhill prison is preparing to house the man charged with the murders of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, the Citizen can reveal.
Ian Huntley has been held at Rampton high security hospital in Nottinghamshire since he was charged a month ago with murdering the two little girls.
He has been remanded there for assessment until October 8, when he is due to appear again before Peterborough magistrates.
But already officials have agreed that if the court remands 28-year-old Huntley to a prison, he will come immediately to Woodhill.
He could stay there for many months while waiting for his case to be heard and, if found guilty, could be committed back there to serve his sentence.
Already prison staff are preparing to receive Huntley and are making adaptations to an area in the health care wing. It is believed they are planning to install a 24-a day CCTV link so that Huntley can be watched at all times.
Woodhill is the only prison in the area equipped to take in high-risk prisoners.
Huntley would arrive at the prison with a police escort, and city police could be put on stand-by to deal with any disturbances for protesting members of the public.
The former Soham caretaker, who did not speak a word during his first court appearance, faces a third charge of conspiring to pervert the course of justice with his girlfriend Maxine Carr.
She is currently on remand in Holloway Prison.
Woodhill deputy governor Steve Turner told the Citizen: "we are unable to comment on individual prisoners.
"But if a prisoner of this type were to be sent to Woodhill we would have adequate facilities and staff to deal with him".
Like most people I am shocked and disturbed by these 2 girls deaths.and almost as shocked by the increasing number of people who seem to believe Maxine Carr is totally innocent.ok,she was away the wknd the girls went missing but there's no doubt Huntley told her what happened when she got back and from that point on she delighted in helping to cover up the murders(displaying false letters,going to meetings etc) not to mention lying to police.she is as guilty as him.
Michael
Have I missed something? Has the trial been and gone without me noticing? Both Huntley and Carr are innocent until they are proven to be guilty. - Ellis (6th December 2002)
Ellis
I drove through Soham today. Some thoughts and observations: Not far from the war memorial, the place of one of the last confirmed sightings of Holly and Jessica, is a shop called Ley Stores. It's a newsagent /off licence. Though it would appear not directly relevant, I thought it curious.
Also, I was struck by how enclosed the centre of Soham feels.The church is a looming presence. I thought it would be very hard to abduct anyone, let alone two ten year old girls.I was left feeling it may of been with H&J's consent in some way. Whilst driving to Soham I was also surprised how relatively isolated Soham is. I was left thinking this was either a very local crime or a coordinated group had come from further afield and deliberately targeted the area. I can see why the police have fallen down on the local crime side.You are left with a feeling that this is quite an isolated place to come and abduct two girls. As I say, you do feel it's a case of one or the other.
On arriving home I came across this www.geocities.com/Heartland/Trail/6704/anglia_region_uk.html
As you will see the crossed keys reference is to the girls guides badge in West Cambridgeshire. Were H&J girl guides? I don't seem to be able to find out if they were. What do you think? Could there be a significant connection? There must be a lot of US military personnel living in West Cambridgeshire. Perhaps this is where the red curtain house is?
Cheers
P
